The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. He woke up at 5 a.m. to get ready for work, and they began talking about separating. DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . Good to have a former forensic detective around. Also she seemed to have every intention to work things out while he was having an affair and according to him getting divorced. In the 2000 page report that was released they pose the theory that she may have been asleep while attacked. If that were in fact the equivalent of an $80,000 *salary*, they wouldnt have been behind on their mortgage and HOA dues. Good work. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. read befor comment on subjectit is well describedecomposition did this. Im convinced that he did the same to Shanann. Death is simply not pretty, nor was it meant to be. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. Everyone on here who has mentioned ocd has an opinion formed by stereotypes theyve heard. It makes the crime even more heinous in my mind because it would have required a lot of thought concerning the logistics. That is what is difficult; without a trial we have no way of knowing all the forensic evidence and what tests the state started to perform or did perform. He knew this too, which is why he was so brazen using the card that weekend. Thankyou. Rude person. He said the blood alcohol is normal after you die. What information to that extent do you expect *an autopsy* to provide?? She should have seen my house when my kids were little. He was a mechanic. The graphic autopsy reports detail the condition of all three bodies after they were recovered from an oil site owned by Anadarko Petroluem, where Chris Watts buried them. Once youre already unconscious from sleep & then start losing air from throttling it would make you very disoriented & hard to come to fully conscious state & fight back before losing total consciousness again. A person with OCD also wouldnt have that much stuff on the bathroom vanity. Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing was a spur-of-the-moment crime of passion and didn't admit to planning it. The girls were described as light sleepers, and I wonder if this was because in fact they were sleeping too much, because wow, that is a lot of sleep, even for their ages. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. How does pretending to be asleep and cowardice align with murder? Notice she was undressed when found. Please God Forgive me for everything.. The Watts murders got to me also. She asked him to keep the receipt for taxes. Before I forget one glaring mistake in the Discovery by the CBI when they did the forensic search they said they checked for traces of blood where the cadaver dogs had indicated, including the top of the basement stairs near the mudroom. Regarding oil in the stomach, just a thought, but wasnt Bella face up and CeCe face down when removed from the tanks? When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. yes, that is great, there is no mention at all that there was any of the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge that was in Bellas stomach, thankyou for pointing that out Nick. ( when they were arguing she couldnt sleep & had been crying all night ) What happened when she got home nobody knows, but I do believe she felt comfortable enough to go online and shop. He failed all 3 questions. God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. Bella Watts Autospy Report He was holding me down by sitting on me, one leg on each side of my stomache. 2 hours isnt going to bed or going to sleep. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy for Bella said. I didnt know what else to do. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. Remember, she was pregnant. Ella no tomaba ni la basura tampoco, lo dijo la nana de las bebs. Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. She says did Shannan do something that made you do something? The plea deal meant that he was spared the death penalty, and was instead sentenced to multiple life prison terms without the possibility of parole. (He left the house as the sun was coming upmore on this below). Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. Did anyone explain that? 5. And even if he did not kill them twice so to speak, he killed the on in front of the other with no thoughts to their fear levels or anything but yet you put all the blame on another of the victims. With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. I didnt see any evidence that Shanann tried to defend herself, probably because he sat on top of her. With ShanAnn, IF she was attacked and killed shortly after she arrived home, while still downstairs, she would have still been dressed her underwear and pants would have caught it. Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. As far as the BAC goes, it had been over 100 hours from the estimated time of death to when the samples were taken at autopsy. He had a schedule and he was sticking to it. And honestly Im sure he had a lot of time on his hands to do stuff. Of course we dont know what shes talking about. The agents stressed the words ran & walked because they were inconsistent & made no sense. Like 1 in the kitchen by her purse. Required fields are marked *. This is from the transcript of the Larry King Live show covering Scott Petersons conviction in the death of his pregnant wife Lacey thats Dr. Henry Lee, a forensic scientist: KING: If there were smothering, would there have been evidence? Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. Her legs would have been free, but if he was high up on her chest I doubt she would have been able to even get him with her knees, they would not have reached him. I dont know why, but I have a deep need (would have never expected this) to discuss what happened, and I need to be honest with my observations. Chris Watts isnt my hero. So Chris Watts said she barely got into bed, and soshe barely got into bed? If the children had cold pizza for tea at 7pm, that means they were still alive until at least 11pm. 3. Dont jump on me buthear me bnb ot, I believe Chris. Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? like others, cannot wrap my brain around his behavior. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. I have a theory which could explain Shananns ethanol and alcohol levels. I am very new to this case, only a couple of months ago, end of November 2020 to be precise. I consider it strange to have them there FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO. Chris cleaned all that up so quickly and completely? She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. The carpet was cleaned, and laundry done in the Peterson case. Even flailing my legs they werent even reaching him. The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. The Watts family killings and the financial devastation, infidelity, and what appears on the videos as a mindless neglect of the children overlay all these sad accounts. The toxicology results likely represent decomposition and an artifact of being submerged in an oil tank for several days. The police reports contain a conversation Chris had with his father. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. How was she about her childrens allergies? From what I can understand of the facts in this case- there were no scratches to Chris. I am not saying he touched the purse. I really think that the pregnancy started the whole thing. The FBI agents had already profiled that the wife had been strangled because theyd been through the house with luminol & found no blood splatter, and because children were involved also believed smothering was involved. She was relatively YOUNG. https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions-and-treatments/conditions/e/esophageal-strictures, a medical history significant for peanut allergies. They said they found paper bags around both her hands. Not the best proof, but it adds to the chance there was planning. He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. And to think CW called a co-worker @ 5pm to tell him that he would be going directly to the oil battery site and told the co-worker he didnt need to. So weird. This is an excellent theory and makes a TON of sense!!! Ditto who died first and last. I am by no means defending him. He was photographed head to toe upon booking & was found to have no offensive wounds on him anywhere. If CW is the type of father that would never hurt his girls, then his behavior after pulling Shannan off CeCe would be to call 911, try CPR ( he had classes at work) When non murderous parents are confronted with the loss or potential loss of their children they get desperate. I love that guy. I was near death before my ex took his hands off my neck. Its what seems to make sense, based on the info we recently learned. Then he asks to talk to his dad. She even labelled food in her kitchen. They didnt do date nights. However, the autopsy does not detail the size or spacing of these marks sufficiently to form an educated opinion. Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? 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