No frosties. They said I would, I just completed a second round of IVF/ICSI. 4. I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). Thanks!! I'm looking for some insight on the microdose lupron protocol. undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. 0000002646 00000 n
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Ive been priming for transfer for 11 days and Im only at 6.7mm. Only recently. This will be our 2nd IVF. Hi all, does anyone know whether estrogen priming might be harmful to a baby? For those of you unfamiliar, mini stim is for poor responders who don't have much luck in obtaining a large number of eggs. Please share your stories..how long did you stim for? The nurses at my clinic are suggesting the following schedule: I'm wondering if, Looking for thoughts from IVF veterans on what you did if you had a cancelled cycle. I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. Bzeety- do you remember if you started on 300 iu's of Gonal-F? However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. Short Lupron (Microdose or Flare) Protocol for IVF. 1Frostie. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. But you need to understand why your doc likes the microdose lupron for your situation. Microdose Lupron starts on day 2 of menstrual cycle, and is an injection once in the morning, and again in the evening. [CLC] Can the use of Femara for 5 days with stimulants hurt the egg quality? So for this 3rd FET my dr has added in estrogen injections. 0000017584 00000 n
I just had my first cycle cancelled last week due to no response and I h, A lot of women on the board have asked me what I have done between IVF#2 and IVF#3 in order to get such a drastic improvement in results (number of eggs, fertilization, and I even have frozen embryos this time - crazy). What should we try that we haven't already? Since then its been a nightmare to thicken my lining. My dr wants the lining to be between 8-12. 2TFR'ed. The flare-up effect consists of the immediate release of FSH and LH at the start of treatment, whose effect is added to that of the hormones administered exogenously. They have me on Follistim, Low Dose HCG, and Ganirellex. --- EDD 4/5/15, "Everything will be alright in the end. Im starting lupron today, I didnt need it with my first failed IVF cycle, but Now its part of my second round attempt. Estrogen priming and the agonist-antagonist conversion protocol is at least as successful as the microdose flare protocol based on medical data. My cycle "might" be cancelled. While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to . Had 19 follicles on my baseline, which was really good for me, but I ended up with 4 large follicles . puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes. Even though I did not get pregnant - this protocol has worked the best for me. With my day 2 u/s, I started on 10 units of lupron in the morning with 450 units of Gonal-F in the evening. I did microdose lupron flare protocol with my first IVF. Lupron Depot is used in women to treat symptoms of endometriosis (overgrowth of uterine lining outside of the uterus) or uterine fibroids. I had 4 but 3 stopped growing around day 6 so they weren't frozen. Slow growing/No follicles with Lupron Stop protocol? Im currently doing vaginal Estrace (twice a day), vaginal viagra (four times a day), 3 estrogen patches all the time, vitamin e, baby aspirin, and I even started estrogen injections twice a wee, I'm having lining issues and wondering I'd anyone else out there has as well and what your solution/protocol was to thicken the lining. Our IVF #1 was cancelled in March due to low response to stims. Hello! It is possible that the ovarian stimulation process on the egg donor would be shorter or longer than that shown above. (Intralipids and Lovenox). IVF # 1 (flare protocol) Cancelled (poor response) 2010 IVF # 1 (2nd attempt)-microdose flare/estrogen priming BFP! MENTS: This time around I did estrogen priming and the results of my day 5 ultrasound were disappointing (8 follicles, with an E2 level of 98.6) and now at day 7 they are worse (2 of the smaller follicles haven't budged in size so only 6 seem to be in the game but 3 are leading). Lupron, a GnRH agonist, is one of the best known and most hated of IVF treatment injectable fertility drugs. 0000006342 00000 n
High FSH. Clomid+ 150 iu follistim+150iu menopur and GH every other day. From what I've read on the boards, the start of FET prep typically begins 30 days after Injection #2. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Stimulation Day 1 You will start gonadotropin injections today. I'm gearing up for my 4th IVF cycle next month. I h, 5/15 We did EPP for this last IVF (#4) and it was our best cycle by far. April '14 Planning IVF attempt #3. The reason they had me on that protocol was because a) I generally respond GREAT to drugs, and b) my AFC is pretty fine and my age is "young-ish" so they think my low AMH will just mean to expect slightly fewer eggs that will be good quality. (ex. In addition, your chance of developing ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome is less with GnRH antagonist protocols. I'm the poster child for lupron flair. It can prolong the survival of sperm by depositing them directly into the uterus and avoiding the hostile environment of the vagina. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. They said my FSH and AMH levels were really good too so i just think i'm a poor responder to IVF in general! A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. Foll, and Meno. First ivf was luteal lupron protocol. thanks ! Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). -DOR diagnosis. Beta 1/22: 14 Beta 1/24: 24 Beta 1/26: 28
We aimed to compare cost effectiveness between these two cycle types in women . 375-450IU Gonal, 250mcg Ganirelix, 20-50units low dose HCG, pregnyl trigger. Hi ladies,My RE proposed for my IVF#5 the micro flare protocol with BCP priming. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol can't use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. Treatment history: 31F/29M, 0.9 AMH, 10 FSH, 6-12AFC, mild LPD/dysfolliculogenesis/unexplained. My last two cycles resulted in only one embryo viable for testing which in the end were aneuploid. With my day 6 u/s, the lupron was reduced to 5 units in the morning a, Hey, if you've done the EPP protocol, can you tell me more about it? 0000001040 00000 n
My little one is a success story from MDL! I have no input on EPP but I am so excited you're starting up!!! my clinic doesnt do growth hormone which Ive always heard good things about it. Going with a microdose lupron protocol for my 2nd, starting on 11/30. How long did you wait for next cycle? First time posting here. Hi, Dr. C will now be our doctor point of contact! Thanks! After the 6th negative pregnancy test, they did a "pregnancy loss" bloodwork panel. The calendar shown above is an example of how the cycle stimulation may evolve. Significantly fewer eggs than follicles? Dont get discouraged. Devastated! 13R. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. I'm about to start a ton of supplements my nurse suggested to me. Hi, I'm 40 did my first IVF in October with an antagonist protocol (AMH 4.86). Any help would be greatly appreciated looking for hope this time around.. Hi everyone, does anyone have any thoughts on which protocol is better for older women and which protocol is best for retrieving good quality, chromosomally normal eggs? Utilizing advanced tools and technologies, our doctors take on the toughest cases, providing renewed hope for would-be parents. Then 2X10U Lupron and 2X225U Gonal-F per day for 10 days. Afte, Hi all, Austin, Texas 78731, 16040 Park Valley Drive Building 1, Ste 201
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Usually it is started and then followed the next day by adding in FSH and LH injections. With IVF#2, we did MDL. Clomid, 2 IUI cycles, and 5 IVF cycles = BFN, FET #1 August 2013 = BFP! Lupron microdose protocol. some people think that a bcp suppresses some women too much and so a epp is used instead. I'm sorry to hear about your 2 unsuccessful transfers. 16 0 obj<>
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Just checking in to see how you did with the flare protocol. I am really getting tired of everything and is on the verge of giving up. 11 retrieved, 10 matured and fertilized and 4 blasts and 1 normal. I wanted to know for those who have PCOS (i have mild PCOS) which IVF protocol yielded a BFP for you ? :'-( But other doctors have mentioned that it is great for women with DOR. Attempt #2 is going much better. With IVF#2, I got 16 eggs, 15 of which were mature. This handout is staff as legal aid cannot provide patients with general information. Final u/s showed 5 follicles, stimmed for 2 weeks but ovulated all during retrieval. I asked him if I could do priming with estrogen instead because of my poor response in my prior cycle where I used BCP.I'm 41.5 yo, AMH 1.87. He takes my input and works with me. Your nurse will phone you with instructions by 5:00PM this day. She has already been prescribing me an aggressive protocol (microdose Lu, So a little bit about me. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. Lower doses like 300 iu follistim didn't work for me. 0000000960 00000 n
HB 132 & everything measuring on track. 39 year old multiple failed cycles need advice. Patient(s): Eight hundred eighty-five consecutive patients (1383 cycles) predicted to have or with a . ODWU revealed blocked tube(s). Listing a study does not mean it has been evaluated by the U.S. Federal Government. While some practices make a big deal over the choice of gonadotropin (some use only recombinant FSH, such as Gonal F or Follistim while others primarily use urinary hMG drugs such as Bravelle or Menopur), most studies suggest that there is very little if any difference in pregnancy rates between the different medications. We did MDLF on the third cycle and were able to freeze 5 (untested). As access age, Tarlatzis BC. 3 were mature, and only one fertilized. Five days before her last BCP, she will start Lupron. I am currently waiting on my period. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, 5/15 Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. :) But after my horrible #2 cycle, knowing I really would probably only do one more I gave it all I had for three-four months. Has anyone done the flare protocol and had success? Overjoyed! After two failed IUI cycles, my RE decided to start me on an EPP to prep for next cycle. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It's not your first rodeo here." 8 fertilized w/ IC, Im about to do a frozen embryo transfer but I have very thin uterine lining. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. 0000002919 00000 n
I am going in for my 4th IUI in what was supposed to be an IVF cycle. I'm looking for any feedback on microflare protocol using microdose lupron and ICSI. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol The pretreatment phase is a natural cycle in which estrogen is given for 7 days a week after ovulation. I did estrogen priming with no BCP for this cycle (in addition to several other changes). At 39, you still have a good chance. I have my egg retrieval on Thursday & was curious if anyone had similar timing & wanted to be my buddy. I went through Dr. Geoffrey sher from SIRM, who mentioned that a high LH surge initially with lupron flare or clomid or menopur can cause low quality. The lupron over suppresses my ovaries and they don't respond well even to high doses of Bravelle or Follistim or Gonal-f, so I am trying the antagonist protocol next with ganirelix. Stimmed for 12 days and had retrieval on day 14. We started our second cycle on Friday (7th). Doc consult at the end of this month. And offer a ivf protocol. So I will be on oral estrogen, patches, and injections! It was my first IVF after a failed IUI. We ve tried PRPs, neupojin, Hello, I just joined and first post. DH 38- Low EverythingMe 33- AMH .9Married 11 years 2002-current IUIs, meds, natural = All BFNAug. 0000009528 00000 n
This typically takes 8-12 days, during which time the stimulation is monitored using a combination of vaginal ultrasound and a blood estrogen level approximately every 2-3 days. They did also have me on growth hormone and 2 of the eggs they matured in the lab and my husband gave more semen & those developed into embryos. I tell myself the poor responder is compared with someone with PCOS and not a "normal" fertile person. No DOR, PCOS or Endometriosis. Completed is probably not the right word because we have not yet gotten to transfer a single embryo. Wow so why cant u access your frozen eggs? So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. Anyone have success with this protocol? My first retrieval resulted in no viable embryos. - Estrogen patch 14 days, prio, Hi all, Thank you so much for joining along on this. Design: Retrospective, case-control study. I'm reading so much about low stim for DOR and over 40 works better that make me very nerveous about trying high doses. 2TFR'ed. :) I was a low responder my first round as well, only 1 frozen blast that didn't stick. I dont want to keep trying protocols and not succeeding. Adding Cetrotide. And any other recommendations on clinics? I'm praying this protocol will be successfull for us. Thanks for the support. While many studies to evaluate the effectiveness of these additional medications have been conducted, there are unfortunately very few definitive conclusions that have been reached. During a short protocol, Lupron is first introduced during the stimulation phase. Austin, TX 78749, 705 Generations Dr, Suite 102
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Thoughts on different protocols? We got pregnant with my first IUI, but miscarried within 2 weeks. Baby girl born Aug 2013 I am not familiar with it, but I will definitely some research. They are in a.different country and I cant travel due to covid restrictions. 07/23 - Injection #1 What was the quality of your embryos? But ever since then, despite having a lot of embryos, we were never able to repeat this success. This medicine reduces the amount of testosterone in men or estrogen in women. 0000001323 00000 n
The sad part of the story is that my dr was so excited and confident I would get pregnant he transfered In all 3 fresh cycle. With IVF#1, I only got 2-3 mature follies. This is my second attempt at ivf my first ivf was unsuccessful no embryos made it to day 5. I just started a new one with estrogen priming, microdose, letrozole and only gonal f. No menopur. Our beautiful little girl arrived January 2015! (The use of generic Lupron is acceptable.) Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? I am a little concerned that I am supposed to take 300 iu's of Gonal-F. 150 iu follistim and 75 iu menopure didn't work either. I was told that it is a quality over quantity protocol, however Bzeety response would seem to negate that. Rather than slowly suppress the pituitary over 4-5 days like Lupron does, these newer medications, Cetrotide and Ganirelix Acetate rapidly suppress the pituitary in a matter of hours. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Total noob question about protocols - don't be offended. My RE wants to use a lupron microdose protocol. %PDF-1.4
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For my IVF cycle I was on bcps for two weeks. Hope it makes the difference for you! I am excited to read all the success stories. 3F. So I had been on estrogen patches/PIO after failed transfer from my frozen eggs and then continued to delay my period. With IVF#2, we did MDL. Stimulation Day 4 Come in for an E2 and LH blood test. were initiated in patients receiving MDF. I'm starting IVF#3 on November 14th. I did this protocol for my cycle. I see a lot of people have taken Lupron. 8 days of stims and I had 1 lead follicle and 2 other measurable ones. What felt "cookie cutter" was that despite my great day 3 tests, RE put me on microdose Lupron flare protocol with 300 units of Follistim (150 twice a day). I see! 1. I stimmed for like 15 days, got 5 eggs, 3 fert with icsi, all disintegrated basically, no blasts. Decided to cancel on day 9. I have no idea if that's true but it gave me hope and made me feel better. 28 years old, first IVF cycle cancelled?! 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